Lumen Gentium – Chapter 7 – Suggested Responses for Discussion Questions

  1. The passage talks about the Church on earth being called the “pilgrim Church.” What do you think this metaphor signifies about the Church’s purpose and journey?

Response:  Lumen Gentium doesn’t directly answer why the Church is called the “pilgrim Church” but it does provide context that helps us understand the metaphor (citations provided below). Here’s how some key points from the document shed light on the meaning:

  • The Church’s Journey is Not Finished: Lumen Gentium emphasizes that the Church on earth has not reached its perfection (LG 48). It awaits the restoration of all things in Christ’s glory (LG 48).
  • We are on Earth Temporarily: The document speaks of the Church as being composed of those still living (“wayfarers”) who are not yet in their eternal home (LG 49).
  • We are Moving Towards Something Greater: Our hope lies in the future glory to be revealed in us (LG 48). The Church is oriented towards the heavenly kingdom (LG 51).

Considering these points together, we can see the Church on earth as a group of travelers on a journey towards a permanent destination in heaven. We are not yet home, but we are moving forward in hope.

Here are the citations from Lumen Gentium that support these points:

“…the Church, to which we are all called in Christ Jesus, and in which we acquire sanctity through the grace of God, will attain its full perfection only in the glory of heaven…” (LG 48)

“…Joined with Christ in the Church and signed with the Holy Spirit ‘who is the pledge of our inheritance,’…we are truly called and we are sons of God, but we have not yet appeared with Christ in glory…” (LG 48)

“…Fully conscious of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the pilgrim Church…” (LG 50)

  1. How does the concept of the “eschatological nature of the Church” (the Church’s relation to the end times) influence your understanding of the Church’s role in the world?

Response:  Lumen Gentium highlights how the eschatological nature of the Church, its relation to the end times, shapes its role in the world (LG 48-51). Here’s how the document explains it:

  • The Church on a Journey: The Church isn’t yet perfect; it awaits its fullness in Christ’s heavenly glory (LG 48). This future restoration has already begun with Christ’s work and the Holy Spirit’s presence (LG 48).
  • Hope and Action: We are already in the final age, but the world’s transformation isn’t complete (LG 48). The Church teaches us how to live with faith and work for a better future (LG 48).
  • Anticipation and Incompletion: There’s a tension between our current state and the future glory (LG 48-49). We are God’s children, but not yet fully revealed with Christ (LG 48). The Church is a pilgrim, yearning for its heavenly home (indirect reference through the concept of pilgrimage).

How this shapes the Church’s role:

  • Witness and Hope: By living according to Christ’s teachings, the Church offers a foretaste of God’s kingdom and hope for the future (indirect reference through the concept of pilgrimage).
  • Imperfect Service: Recognizing its incompleteness, the Church strives to serve the world with humility and love, reflecting God’s grace (indirect reference through the Church’s pilgrim nature).
  • Transforming Influence:  While focused on the heavenly goal, the Church works to transform the world towards good, reflecting God’s will (indirect reference through the Church’s mission to spread the Gospel).

In essence, the Church’s eschatological nature makes it a bridge between the present and the future. It serves as a beacon of hope, reminding us of the ultimate goal while inspiring us to work for a better world in anticipation of its full realization in heaven.

  1. The text mentions a tension between our current state and the future glory. How can we, as members of the Church on earth, maintain hope for the future while still actively engaging in the world around us?

Response:  Lumen Gentium addresses the tension between our current state and future glory while emphasizing active engagement in the world through the following points:

  • Already Begun in Christ (LG 48):  The document emphasizes that the promised restoration we await has already begun in Christ and is carried forward in the mission of the Holy Spirit (LG 48). This means our hope for the future is grounded in the reality of Christ’s work, which continues to transform us in the present.
  • Working for the Kingdom (LG 48): While performing our duties in the world, we are also working out our salvation (LG 48).  Our hope for the future motivates us to contribute positively to the world around us.
  • Charity Urges Us to Live More for Him (LG 252):  Even though we are in exile from the Lord, our hope and love for Christ compels us to live according to his will and serve others (LG 252).
  • Striving to Please God (LG 253):  Our hope for future glory inspires us to strive to please God in all things (LG 253). This active striving involves living a Christian life and contributing to the betterment of the world.
  • Putting on the Armor of God (LG 254):  The document uses the metaphor of armor to depict our active engagement in the world. We are to fight against evil and promote good works while we wait for Christ’s return (LG 254).

In essence, Lumen Gentium teaches that hope for the future does not mean passively waiting for the world to end.  Our hope motivates us to actively participate in God’s work of transformation in the present world.

  1. In your view, how can we best learn from and be inspired by the saints without diminishing the worship due to God?

Response:  Lumen Gentium doesn’t directly give an opinion on “how we can best learn from and be inspired by the saints,” but it does offer principles that guide a proper approach which avoids diminishing worship due to God. Here’s how the document informs this concept (citations included):

  • Focus on Love and Intercession: True devotion involves love for the saints and seeking their intercession for our good and the good of the Church (LG 51). This emphasis places the focus on our relationship with God and the support the saints can offer on that journey.
  • Example and Communion: We are encouraged to be inspired by their examples in life and strengthened by the communion with the whole Church, including those in heaven (LG 50). This highlights learning from their actions and the sense of belonging to a larger spiritual family.
  • Ultimate Goal is God’s Glory: Every act of veneration, including that directed at saints, should ultimately lead us to glorify God (LG 50). This ensures our practices remain oriented towards the divine.

Key takeaway: Lumen Gentium emphasizes that our veneration of saints should be rooted in love, seeking their intercession for our spiritual growth, and ultimately lead us closer to God.

  1. The passage acknowledges potential “abuses” in the veneration of saints. Can you think of any examples, historically or in the present day, of how such veneration might go too far? How can we ensure our practices are honoring the true spirit of this tradition?

Response:  Lumen Gentium acknowledges potential abuses in the veneration of saints while offering some guidance to ensure proper practices (point 51). Here’s how the document addresses your question:

Lumen Gentium on Abuses in Veneration of Saints (LG 51):

“[The Council] … urges all concerned, if any abuses, excesses or defects have crept in here or there, to do what is in their power to remove or correct them, and to restore all things to a fuller praise of Christ and of God.”

The document doesn’t provide specific historical examples, but it highlights potential issues through the words “abuses,” “excesses,” and “defects.” Here are some possible interpretations:

  • Excessive focus on external acts: Veneration becoming overly concerned with rituals or acquiring relics without emphasizing the deeper aspects of holiness and the saint’s example (LG 51).
  • Confusing veneration with adoration: Blurring the lines between the worship due to God and the respect shown to saints (LG 51).
  • Treating sainthood as a magical formula: Viewing saints as dispensers of favors rather than seeking their intercession for spiritual growth (not explicitly mentioned in LG 51).

Ensuring Proper Practices:

Lumen Gentium offers some pointers for a healthy veneration of saints (LG 51):

  • Focus on love and seeking intercession: Veneration should be rooted in love for the saint and a desire for their prayers to benefit ourselves and the Church (LG 51).
  • Emphasis on Christ as the ultimate mediator: All veneration ultimately leads us to glorify God through Christ (LG 50).
  • Instruction and clarification: The Church emphasizes the importance of teaching about the true meaning of veneration to avoid misunderstandings (LG 51).

By following these guidelines, we can ensure our practices honor the tradition of seeking inspiration from the saints and their intercession, while keeping the focus on God’s glory.

  1. Do you think our relationship with those in heaven is a one-way street, or is there a way we can also offer something to them? Explain your answer.

Response:  Lumen Gentium suggests a two-way relationship between the Church on earth and those in heaven, though it emphasizes the benefits flowing from heaven to earth [49]. Here’s how the document supports this idea:

  • Intercession of the Saints: The document states that those in heaven “do not cease to intercede with the Father for us” (LG 49). This implies an active role by the saints in supporting us through their prayers.
  • Strengthening the Church: Lumen Gentium says that those in heaven “establish the whole Church more firmly in holiness” and “contribute to its greater edification” (LG 49). This suggests a positive influence from the saints on the Church’s ongoing mission.

While the document focuses on these benefits from heaven, it doesn’t explicitly mention ways we can offer something to those in heaven. However, considering the concept of Christian fellowship that permeates the text, it’s possible to infer an indirect way we might contribute to their joy.

  • Living Holy Lives: By striving for holiness on earth (LG 48), we glorify God, which could be a source of joy for those already in his presence.
  • Fulfilling Our Callings: Fulfilling our roles in the Church contributes to its overall health and mission (LG 51). A thriving Church might reflect well on those who have come before us.

It’s important to remember that Lumen Gentium prioritizes God as the ultimate recipient of our worship and veneration (LG 51). While we can’t directly improve the state of those in heaven, we can live in a way that honors God and strengthens the Church, which might indirectly bring them joy.

  1. The document emphasizes the importance of the liturgy in uniting the Church on earth and in heaven. How can we approach liturgical celebrations in a way that reflects this deep communion?

Response:  Lumen Gentium emphasizes the liturgy’s role in uniting the Church on earth and in heaven (point 50). Here’s how the document connects liturgy to this communion and how we can approach it with that in mind:

  • Liturgy as Shared Celebration: The document describes us celebrating God’s majesty “with combined rejoicing” alongside those redeemed by Christ (point 50). This highlights the liturgy as a shared experience between the Church on earth and the Church in heaven (refers to point 50).
  • Focus on Christ:  The document mentions celebrating the Eucharistic sacrifice “in communion with and venerating the memory” of saints (point 50). This centrality of Christ ensures our veneration ultimately leads to glorifying God (point 50).  During liturgy, we remember the saints, but our focus remains on Christ, the unifying force between heaven and earth.
  • Conscious Participation:  While the document doesn’t prescribe specific actions, it emphasizes an “authentic cult of the saints” (point 51).  Approaching the liturgy with an awareness of this deeper connection and actively participating (praying, singing) can reflect this deeper meaning.

Here are some additional thoughts on how we can approach the liturgy with this concept in mind:

  • Arrive with a prayerful mindset: Intentionally set your heart on uniting with the Church on earth and in heaven through the liturgy.
  • Reflect on the readings and homily: Consider how they connect to the concept of the communion of saints.
  • Sing hymns with intention: Many hymns express themes of heavenly worship and the communion of saints. Singing with those themes in mind can deepen the experience.
  • Pray for the Church: Include prayers for the Church on earth and those in heaven during your personal prayers within the liturgy.

By approaching the liturgy with these considerations, we can participate more consciously in the beautiful mystery of the Church’s unity across heaven and earth.

  1. This passage is from a Catholic document. Do you think the concept of the communion of saints is relevant to other faiths as well? Why or why not?

Response:  Lumen Gentium does not directly address the applicability of the concept of the communion of saints to other faiths. However, the document offers insights that can inform this discussion (citations provided):

  • Universality of the Church: Lumen Gentium emphasizes the universality of the Church, stating, “The Church, to which we are all called in Christ Jesus, and in which we acquire sanctity through the grace of God, will attain its full perfection only in the glory of heaven…” (point 48). This universality suggests the Church encompasses all believers, potentially extending beyond earthly denominations.
  • Connection Through Christ: The document underlines the centrality of Christ in uniting the Church, both on earth and in heaven (points 48-49). If other faiths acknowledge Christ, a point of connection for a form of communion might exist.
  • Shared Humanity and Charity: Lumen Gentium acknowledges a shared humanity and charity that binds all people together (point 49). This suggests a potential for a broader spiritual communion that transcends specific doctrines.
  • Respect for Other Christians: The document recognizes the validity of baptism in other Christian denominations (point 15). This suggests a certain level of spiritual connection is acknowledged beyond the Catholic Church.

However, it’s important to note that Lumen Gentium focuses on the Catholic understanding of the communion of saints, which involves veneration of saints and belief in their intercession (points 49-50). These practices may not be shared by other faiths.

In conclusion, Lumen Gentium doesn’t definitively address the applicability of the communion of saints concept to other faiths. However, it offers principles of universality in Christ, shared humanity, and the importance of Christian unity that leave room for potential connections across denominations.

  1. The document talks about the Church as a “family.” How can we better cultivate a sense of fellowship and support within our own faith communities?

Response:  Lumen Gentium uses the concept of the Church as a family throughout the document, but specifically addresses cultivating fellowship and support in paragraphs 10 and 27 (https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html). Here’s how the document answers your question:

Church as Family (LG 10):

  • The document emphasizes that the family is the domestic church, where parents are the first teachers of the faith to their children (LG 10). This familial language highlights the importance of nurturing relationships within the Church.

Strengthening Fellowship (LG 27):

  • Lumen Gentium describes all those called to Christ as sons and daughters of God, forming one family in Christ (LG 27). It emphasizes that remaining in communion with this family fosters mutual charity and praise of the Holy Trinity (LG 27). This suggests that fellowship and support are strengthened through acts of love and shared worship.

Here are some ways to cultivate a sense of fellowship and support within your faith community based on these ideas:

  • Intergenerational Interaction: Encourage activities or programs that bring together people of all ages, similar to how a family unit interacts and supports each other.
  • Mentorship Programs: Establish programs where experienced members can guide and support newer members, fostering a sense of shared journey within the faith.
  • Community Outreach: Organize volunteer opportunities or social events that allow members to connect and serve others together, strengthening the bonds within the faith community.
  • Shared Worship: Find ways to make worship experiences more interactive and engaging, fostering a sense of unity and shared purpose within the faith family.
  • Small Groups: Create small group studies or social gatherings where members can build deeper relationships and offer mutual support.

By incorporating these practices, your faith community can cultivate a stronger sense of fellowship and support, reflecting the image of the Church as a loving family.

  1. Reflecting on the passage, what does it mean to you to be part of the Church, both on earth and in the hope of heaven?

Response:  Lumen Gentium doesn’t directly answer what being part of the Church means on a personal level, but it offers concepts that can inform your own understanding. Here’s how some ideas from the document can contribute to your reflection (citations included):

  • Being part of God’s Family: Lumen Gentium emphasizes the Church as a united family of God’s children, both on earth and in heaven (point 51). This suggests a sense of belonging, mutual support, and shared purpose in God’s plan (LG 279).
  • A Journey Towards Perfection: The Church is on a journey towards its full perfection in heaven (point 48). Being part of the Church means participating in this journey, striving for holiness, and contributing to the Church’s mission (LG 14).
  • United in Christ:  We are all connected through Christ and the Holy Spirit, regardless of whether we are on earth or in heaven (point 49).  Being part of the Church means being part of this vast communion, united in our love for God and one another (LG 14).
  • Living with Hope: The Church on earth is not the finished product, but a foretaste of the glory to come (point 51). Being part of the Church means living with hope for the future and the ultimate fulfillment in heaven (LG 242).

Ultimately, your understanding of being part of the Church is personal. However, Lumen Gentium provides a foundational perspective: you are part of a vast spiritual family, on a journey towards God, united in Christ and the Holy Spirit, living with hope for the future.

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Jesus last words on Earth were to his disciples, can be found in Matthew Chap 28 when Jesus told his disciples, “Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”

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